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	<title>Comments on: Death and destruction from OpenID</title>
	<link>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/</link>
	<description>the blog for developers who care about more than just code...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Douglas Halve</title>
		<link>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>John Douglas Halve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related to #4 (usability) IdP myVidoop has a password manager in addition to multi-factor security. It's my dashboard and I feel safe storing my info on myVidoop, but they have an option to store your traditional user name and pw's in an encrypted file on your hard drive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to #4 (usability) IdP myVidoop has a password manager in addition to multi-factor security. It&#8217;s my dashboard and I feel safe storing my info on myVidoop, but they have an option to store your traditional user name and pw&#8217;s in an encrypted file on your hard drive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Cascio</title>
		<link>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Cascio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/#comment-86</guid>
		<description>You are so spot-on with #5. The notion that a site "owns" its registrants. or that they are somehow compelled to return is ridiculous on its face. There was similar resistance to general credit cards years ago. Finally, merchants realized that making it easy for people to buy is much more important than the illusion of "owning" a customer because they applied for one of your store credit accounts. 
What are really ridiculous are sites that are providers, but don't accept OpenIDs. VOX is one. They won't let you comment on blogs there unless you sign up with them, and there's no option to use an OpenID to sign up.
Someday, sites will drop this stupid competition-by-inconvenience strategy and realize that it's the number of people that USE the site that count, not how many fill our your registration form. Would be interested if anyone has actually heard a cogent, reasonable argument for not accepting OpenIDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so spot-on with #5. The notion that a site &#8220;owns&#8221; its registrants. or that they are somehow compelled to return is ridiculous on its face. There was similar resistance to general credit cards years ago. Finally, merchants realized that making it easy for people to buy is much more important than the illusion of &#8220;owning&#8221; a customer because they applied for one of your store credit accounts.<br />
What are really ridiculous are sites that are providers, but don&#8217;t accept OpenIDs. VOX is one. They won&#8217;t let you comment on blogs there unless you sign up with them, and there&#8217;s no option to use an OpenID to sign up.<br />
Someday, sites will drop this stupid competition-by-inconvenience strategy and realize that it&#8217;s the number of people that USE the site that count, not how many fill our your registration form. Would be interested if anyone has actually heard a cogent, reasonable argument for not accepting OpenIDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ilikeellipses.com/2007/10/17/death-and-destruction-from-openid/#comment-81</guid>
		<description>In addition to what you mentioned, I think another valid point under #5 (Adoption) is user experience and convenience. The easier we make people's usage of a site, the happier they are. If they never come back, they never come back - as you said, that's not necessarily because they're not "locked in" to an account.  If your site does everything it can to be as easy to use as possible, then if people value the service you provide, they'll be back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to what you mentioned, I think another valid point under #5 (Adoption) is user experience and convenience. The easier we make people&#8217;s usage of a site, the happier they are. If they never come back, they never come back - as you said, that&#8217;s not necessarily because they&#8217;re not &#8220;locked in&#8221; to an account.  If your site does everything it can to be as easy to use as possible, then if people value the service you provide, they&#8217;ll be back.</p>
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